Tried to post this here a few days ago but there was a error so I thought I would try again today ... interesting stuff.
Zaza Zazas Nasatana Zaza Zazas
I asked a friend of mine what that about what this signature meant (above) someone uses on another list's post and this is the reply I got
G~
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Oh, by the way, here's the answer to your last question...he, he, he:
Choronzon - demon of dispersion, guardian of the Abyss or the 10th aether, Noznoroch - 333. He is said to be the abyss and everything in it. Another interpretation of him is as the personification of the hypertrofied ego, and as a force of anti-magick. Rumored by various people to be (a) insane and (b) a great threat. In my view, Choronzon's attidude is dependant upon the manner in which he is approached.
Choronzon can appear as male, female, both, or neither. Its female form is occasionally referred to as Xaronzon. He has been known to appear as a black snake, fox, or jackal. Contrary to the 'Simon' Necronomicon, Pazuzu and Choronzon should not be regarded as aspects of the same being. Choronzon's prescense during ritual is noticable by the very atmosphere in the area.
Choronzon is associated with the planet Uranus. The Biblical 'Legion' has been regarded by some magicians to be
Choronzon, as has the entity that apparently terrified John Dee and Edward Kelly into ending their magickal work. Crowley called
Choronzon the "first and deadliest of all the powers of evil", sole
inhabitant of the Abyss, capable of assuming any shape, existing in infinite forms rendering it near-ominpresent, the very Lord of Chaos.
In 1909 Crowley and his associate Victor Neuburg did encounter him (it) on a mountaintop in Algiers, thus making Neuburg a "secret chief" (see Liber XXX Aerum, The Vision and the Voice). There are those who claim that Crowley never acually break free of Choronzon's influence. Choronzon's (now much used) key to other planes if is "Zazas, Zazas, Nasatana, Zazas!" (also Zazas Zazas Nasatanata Zazas and many other varients).
Peter J. Carroll and many chaos magicians consider Choronzon to be an embodyment of all the psychic crap that is floating around the aether. Magicians who have more amicable experiences with Choronzon have reported him to be helpful and friendly, although posessing a rather bizarre sense of humour.
Choronzon has also apparently caused insanity and injury to many who attempt to work with him under the wrong circumstances. If you want a decent working, Choronzon is not
to be approached in a hostile manner (e.g. that of 'conquering the
Abyss'), and may on occasion be irritated by binding rituals
(although it has also been reported to have found them amusing).
On the Quabbalistic Tree of like (primarily the Thelemic version, I
should note), the abyss is Da'ath, the false tenth sephrioth, and
Choronzon dwells therein. The conquest of the abyss, and of
Choronzon, is said to be the conquest of the ego and of that which
prevents a magician from reaching enlightenment. Of course, there are always those of us who would rather work with the ego than against it. These are referred to by Thelemites as the 'Black Brothers', as are those who worship Choronzon as the guardian of the portal between worlds. Probably the most popular working involving Choronzon is Peter J. Carroll's 'Mass of Choronzon'. This calls upon it to grant a random desire of the magician's subconcious.
Other workings with the entity (as opposed to workings to pass through the abyss and confront Choronzon), can include invocation and pact workings.
Zaza Zazas Nasatana Zaza Zazas
I asked a friend of mine what that about what this signature meant (above) someone uses on another list's post and this is the reply I got
G~
<snip>
Oh, by the way, here's the answer to your last question...he, he, he:
Choronzon - demon of dispersion, guardian of the Abyss or the 10th aether, Noznoroch - 333. He is said to be the abyss and everything in it. Another interpretation of him is as the personification of the hypertrofied ego, and as a force of anti-magick. Rumored by various people to be (a) insane and (b) a great threat. In my view, Choronzon's attidude is dependant upon the manner in which he is approached.
Choronzon can appear as male, female, both, or neither. Its female form is occasionally referred to as Xaronzon. He has been known to appear as a black snake, fox, or jackal. Contrary to the 'Simon' Necronomicon, Pazuzu and Choronzon should not be regarded as aspects of the same being. Choronzon's prescense during ritual is noticable by the very atmosphere in the area.
Choronzon is associated with the planet Uranus. The Biblical 'Legion' has been regarded by some magicians to be
Choronzon, as has the entity that apparently terrified John Dee and Edward Kelly into ending their magickal work. Crowley called
Choronzon the "first and deadliest of all the powers of evil", sole
inhabitant of the Abyss, capable of assuming any shape, existing in infinite forms rendering it near-ominpresent, the very Lord of Chaos.
In 1909 Crowley and his associate Victor Neuburg did encounter him (it) on a mountaintop in Algiers, thus making Neuburg a "secret chief" (see Liber XXX Aerum, The Vision and the Voice). There are those who claim that Crowley never acually break free of Choronzon's influence. Choronzon's (now much used) key to other planes if is "Zazas, Zazas, Nasatana, Zazas!" (also Zazas Zazas Nasatanata Zazas and many other varients).
Peter J. Carroll and many chaos magicians consider Choronzon to be an embodyment of all the psychic crap that is floating around the aether. Magicians who have more amicable experiences with Choronzon have reported him to be helpful and friendly, although posessing a rather bizarre sense of humour.
Choronzon has also apparently caused insanity and injury to many who attempt to work with him under the wrong circumstances. If you want a decent working, Choronzon is not
to be approached in a hostile manner (e.g. that of 'conquering the
Abyss'), and may on occasion be irritated by binding rituals
(although it has also been reported to have found them amusing).
On the Quabbalistic Tree of like (primarily the Thelemic version, I
should note), the abyss is Da'ath, the false tenth sephrioth, and
Choronzon dwells therein. The conquest of the abyss, and of
Choronzon, is said to be the conquest of the ego and of that which
prevents a magician from reaching enlightenment. Of course, there are always those of us who would rather work with the ego than against it. These are referred to by Thelemites as the 'Black Brothers', as are those who worship Choronzon as the guardian of the portal between worlds. Probably the most popular working involving Choronzon is Peter J. Carroll's 'Mass of Choronzon'. This calls upon it to grant a random desire of the magician's subconcious.
Other workings with the entity (as opposed to workings to pass through the abyss and confront Choronzon), can include invocation and pact workings.
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Re: General Info for sharing
Fri, March 18, 2005 - 11:58 PMZazas Zazas Nasatana Zasas!
Open Open The gates of Hell Open.... -
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Unsu...
sharing Zazas Zazas Nasatana Zasas!
Mon, March 28, 2005 - 8:08 AMthey are open; everything is coming through.
it just takes knowing.
and let it swin through the ether into you.
love always like a sun,
j
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Re: General Info for sharing
Mon, February 20, 2006 - 5:52 PMYou have no idea how it buoys me to see people on their own coming to understand CHORONZON and even consolidate and pactuate with him/it.
The most rewarding magery in my life has always involved him - either as the rider or the ridden one, much like a loa, I ride current 333 wherever it takes me, half the time; the other half, I direct it, and CHORONZON shows the aspect of himself that is the young and curious child, mischievous and precocious.
In aspect as muse or incubus he's enthralling beyond adequate description. I have made love to CHORONZON on dimethyltriptamine and other adjunct chemistries for hours at a time and came away with my head stuffed with knowledge I had not possessed beforehand.
He can be just as profound a friend as enemy. More so.
-DMT333
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Re: General Info for sharing
Tue, October 31, 2006 - 7:17 PMAh I've been looking for Grant's piece for a while, I'd seen it somewhere before but this is it and I've been meaning to get that into my giant vault of choronzonica. BTW I finally fixed your poem, I had screwed up the pages on it. I still have to change the name of the page itself but everything should be right now:
choronzon.org/grinnoire/fortiori.html
It now has your poem instead of the alien8 one. SORRY about that!
DMT333