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One of the books I am reading right now, is the Quran, a translated English version. I have been reading the introduction and I have to say, that I am very impressed. According to the author(I will include the edition and etc. later) and the mythology is always what I thought it WOULD BE, to punish Satan, God gave Satan control over the planet earth. Mankind and the Jinn were put here, Mankind because they took a negative stance against God's authority, although they weren't totally convince by Satan and the Jinn because they were totally on the side of Satan. This is the Arab version of demons.
God put us in the middle of nowhere, because we cannot stand his physical presence. And Satan is in charge of earth. Everytime a human is born, there is also a Jinn born with them, that is to be their companion, that through their life, is to try and presuade them to follow Satan's side. However, the human can persuade the Jinn to take the side of God, so this works both ways.
I found two very interesting things. To a Muslim, first of all the most important commandment is destruction of the ego. That is what caused all of this to start with. The other thing is that, a person is allowed until the age of 40, to pick their beliefs, to delve into believes, study different things to try and find enlightenment. If someone dies before the age of 40, they automatically go to heaven anyway. However, the person at 40 must choose.
I see a lot of similar correspondences and similar beliefs that are directly comparible to Western Ceremonial Tradition. In fact I am becoming quite intrigued with the Islam faith. I am going to be reading the Quran from cover to cover. This was just the Introduction and already it has my undivided attention.
The actual book is: Quran the Final Testament; Authorized English Version Translated from the Original By Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.(Revised Edition III), copyright 2001 Universal Unity.
Lilith Gigipah
God put us in the middle of nowhere, because we cannot stand his physical presence. And Satan is in charge of earth. Everytime a human is born, there is also a Jinn born with them, that is to be their companion, that through their life, is to try and presuade them to follow Satan's side. However, the human can persuade the Jinn to take the side of God, so this works both ways.
I found two very interesting things. To a Muslim, first of all the most important commandment is destruction of the ego. That is what caused all of this to start with. The other thing is that, a person is allowed until the age of 40, to pick their beliefs, to delve into believes, study different things to try and find enlightenment. If someone dies before the age of 40, they automatically go to heaven anyway. However, the person at 40 must choose.
I see a lot of similar correspondences and similar beliefs that are directly comparible to Western Ceremonial Tradition. In fact I am becoming quite intrigued with the Islam faith. I am going to be reading the Quran from cover to cover. This was just the Introduction and already it has my undivided attention.
The actual book is: Quran the Final Testament; Authorized English Version Translated from the Original By Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.(Revised Edition III), copyright 2001 Universal Unity.
Lilith Gigipah
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Re: The Quran
Tue, July 12, 2005 - 8:40 PMWell, someone on my own mailing list, just told me that the translation I had, wasn't actually a direct translation, it was a certain sect and the guy that had translated it, was assasinated even. So some of this may not apply, in the original translation. I must admit my ignorance at this point, I merely picked up a copy of what I thought was the Quran off of the shelf at my local public library. It is still interesting though. But I think I want an original copy.
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Re: The Quran
Tue, July 12, 2005 - 8:43 PMtranslations always have problems. I have two different versions of the Qur'an and they veer from each other in tone and meaning in places. only surefire thing to do is learn arabic. -
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Re: The Quran
Tue, July 12, 2005 - 8:44 PMoh, also there are many arabic/english copies of the Qur'an, so you can see the actual arabic, translate it yourself, and contrast. -
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Tue, July 12, 2005 - 8:53 PMhehe yet another thing I thought of - the Qur'an is traditionally supposed to have 7 layers of meaning, and there is an arabic gematria as well, so you might want to look into that. -
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Re: The Quran
Wed, July 13, 2005 - 1:53 AMtheres a few interesting bits of this in 777
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Re: The Quran
Mon, July 18, 2005 - 4:49 PMYes, Saul, the number 19 is a number that is a sacred number. That seems to be the amount ot times, the word GOD is epoken in muliples of 19.
Lilith
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