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How does Choronzon manifest in the personality of the magician?
What traits would the person be exihibiting in their personality and how do you know if someone encountered Choronzon?
What appeases Choronzon? Tthe thought of working WITH Choronzon, rather then to have a macho ego trip of trying to control Choronzon, is more appealing to me. I am not much into binding spirits. Even to the Goetia, I am kind and polite with reverence(but firm). Always have been. I have an affinity to demons(spirits). I have one that is my patron demon. I never seem to have any problems with working with.
Just curious as to rather then threatening and horrible banishings, there is a way to handle Choronzon. I have my reasons for asking.
What reading would be good for this? Any paticular material to read on the matter? If so titles? Would be much appreciated. I have come to realize that my partner, who I always considered to be left hand path, is in essence the right hand path person.
We have done readings for our abramelin work. I on the other hand, am left hand path. In the beginning, you wouldn't have guessed this to be the case. Even I wouldn't have. In the tape we made of the bornless ritual, I have the growling noise as I am talking, she has the humming noise...the pleasantness.
Lilith Gigipah
What traits would the person be exihibiting in their personality and how do you know if someone encountered Choronzon?
What appeases Choronzon? Tthe thought of working WITH Choronzon, rather then to have a macho ego trip of trying to control Choronzon, is more appealing to me. I am not much into binding spirits. Even to the Goetia, I am kind and polite with reverence(but firm). Always have been. I have an affinity to demons(spirits). I have one that is my patron demon. I never seem to have any problems with working with.
Just curious as to rather then threatening and horrible banishings, there is a way to handle Choronzon. I have my reasons for asking.
What reading would be good for this? Any paticular material to read on the matter? If so titles? Would be much appreciated. I have come to realize that my partner, who I always considered to be left hand path, is in essence the right hand path person.
We have done readings for our abramelin work. I on the other hand, am left hand path. In the beginning, you wouldn't have guessed this to be the case. Even I wouldn't have. In the tape we made of the bornless ritual, I have the growling noise as I am talking, she has the humming noise...the pleasantness.
Lilith Gigipah
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Re: Choronzon
Tue, July 12, 2005 - 7:23 AMHi Lilith,
kenneth grants works for one investigate choronzon fairly comprehensively bertiauxs stuff covers it also.
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Tue, July 12, 2005 - 6:54 PMThank you. I have The Nightside of Eden. I haven't read it in awhile and I am re-reading it. I know of the Ape Faced Thoth!
I am reading many books right now and teaching myself math for next year in college, got books out of the library(algrebra), also I am studying Enochian tradition and language. But I will look more into the book again. Plus I just started a new business venture with some members of my family. Starting small, going big. Already will have some things on consignment at a local magical shop in town.
I had an experience this weekend that makes me think I ought to read up again, on demonlogy. Lets just say, up until Saturday night, despite the fact I have had some things happen in the past that I rationalized(I am a woman of science), I realized that I may have to think outside the boundaries of my psychological model, or have to rethink it altogether to fit my perceptions of mundane reality. I keep trying to make that fit into a neat little box, that demons are psychological manifestations of a person's own baggage and that is the extent of it. After the incident Saturday and the shock and fear, being woken out of a dead sleep by a growl right by my ear/face, which I wasn't going to put online at all, I talked to some VERY knowledgeable people about this in private E-mail and got some very good advice.
But the shock is over and I am still alive. I don't think that I can be physically harmed.
This happens everytime that I work on this work and Enochian work in general. I seem to have selectively forgot about these past experiences, because they don't fit in to my model or reality. But since I am seeing 333's all over the place, and have this sort of thing happening, think I need to study up and finish my work...
Although contact with angels is what I need the most and continious banishings(intense) and contact with my HGA, is what I would be trying to work with, although that is my ultimate goal anyway.
But it seems, this makes me feel nuts coming from a psych major. Rational?
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Re: Choronzon
Wed, July 13, 2005 - 4:31 AMHi
when it comes to pointers that 333 is at work in your life a couple might be extreme lability and the sense of implosion in everday life as it becomes increasingly restricted by ever decreasing centripedal circles. Also acute and fractioning intellectial activity might occur. Its going to vary a lot from person to person.
aj
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Re: Choronzon
Mon, February 20, 2006 - 5:11 PMHello Lilith, your name is that of my collabourative music partner's succubus; my own incubus is that one whose name is CHORONZON of which we speak. As a friend and metasexual paramour of sorts to this entity for 20 years I have known it/him in many of his faces.
I would suggest the following essay that I wrote to help others understand CHORONZON better.
The Zen Of CHORONZON
choronzon.org/grinnoire/zen.html
(Disambiguation: I spell the entity's name with capital letters for I am frequently writing both of it and the music project bearing his name; I had to figure out a way to make them recognisable; I spell the project's name as "Choronzon". This is not to suggest that there is any "proper" way to write the name--this is solely a "me thing".)
You might be interested in seeing some of the other collected essays on the Grinnoire page:
choronzon.org/grinnoire
And if you get a chance...check out this:
choronzon.org/nwc
In Chaos, The Only True Eternity
DMT333
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Re: Choronzon
Tue, December 26, 2006 - 11:46 AMI'm surprised the tribe.net email widget didn't mail me this until now more than a year and a half later, how odd...
To answer your questions - and these are going to be, remember, the answers coming from someone who's sort of a Choronzonic priestess, so I just wanted to be clear, it's likely to be biased...but also close to the source...
What appeases Choronzon is the same thing that appeases the rest of the Universe, especially now that he (it) knows what it is. It's called Love.
He also adores watching/being through mental manifestation. In this way he can be like a young child, ever curious about the three dimensional world and what it is like to have form. My own pact with him gives him this in exchange for other things, which define what I think of as the "Love" of Choronzon.
Like a child he will behave if Mama lets him hover at her periphery. If he gets in the way - manifests when he ought not, and interferes, be gentle but firm. Explaining to Choronzon that what he's doing is promoting entropy will usually stop the behaviour...since that is his primary bailiwick now, extirpation of excess entropy. Since you are left-hand he should understand you fairly well.
You are Lilith, after all - the mother of demons. There are many sides to Choronzon. There is the hyperactive child and the lover and the Legion, the Storm Goddess and the Earthquake God (these are not Choronzon himself but are closely related associates).
We had two earthquakes this week - and they ended with me saying his Name.
