chrnzn....why all the o's?

topic posted Tue, March 7, 2006 - 10:43 AM by  MBabalon
Why all the o's...or do we not do gematrical spellings in this tribe?
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  • Re: chrnzn....why all the o's?

    Sun, July 9, 2006 - 4:29 AM
    Forgive my ignorance as I am a rather heretical mage (well duh, I glorify the one whose name is the subject of this tribe) but I never got the point of 'gematria spelling'. Frankly, gematria have always vexed me a bit. It seems very arbitrary.

    This was all brought home when I discovered thatJohn Dee - the first to give a name to my favourite god (for that is what he is, to me, as are all xenodimensionals; demons and angels etc. are young gods, in a sense; CHORONZON has achieved apotheosis and is no longer a mere demon...) did not spell CHORONZON the way we do now. He spelled it "Coronzom".

    So what happened? Well, Messrs. Crowley and Neuberg liked gematria a lot, you see, and also loathed chaos. Crowley apparently had a morbid fear of the concept specifically of *dispersion*. Hence, he chose to spell the name of "that mighty devil" as "Choronzon" because the gematria would sync up to 333, which apparently also syncs to the Greek words AKOLASIA and AKRASIA (chaos, dispersion).

    So you might see what I mean here. Gematria and numerology in general don't have, I think, a whole lot of meaning in and of themselves, though it amuses the hell out of ol' C. to watch folks pore over it and experience so much pure apophenia over it. (Apophenia = when one perceives a synchronicity or connection between disparate events or things that is either purely subjective, unintentional and/or just plain false.)

    That is not to say it doesn't have meaning to a believer in it. In fact, I've seen people so swayed by gematria that they essentially imbue it with reality, but mostly to themselves. After all, not everyone finds certain concepts (such as chaos) to be so frightening...and gematria can cover so much ground that it's virtually possible to read anything you want into it.
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    Re: chrnzn....why all the o's?

    Sat, October 7, 2006 - 10:38 PM
    ChRNZN = (8+200+50+7+50)=315, not 333.
    ChORONZON = (8+70+200+70+50+7+70+50) = 525.

    ChVRVNZVN is more apt, if we take gematric considerations. The pronounciation is more glutteral, rather than the smooth pronounciation of the usual 'choronzon'. Anyway, 'choronzon' sounds too much like the spanish 'corazon', the word for 'heart'.







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