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For those interested in alchemy

2008-07-18T16:00:52Z

I have a website for those who want to learn alchemy and get initiated into these arts check out this website its called the international
alchemy guild www.alchemyguild.org/ its a good website and directs you through training in labratory alchemy and other parts of learning check it out if your interested.

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Lilith Monographs series

2008-06-24T07:26:38Z

http://www.amazon.com/Lilith-Monographs-1-Immaculata/dp/1419644963/ref=nosim/?tag=leilahpublic-20

Lilith scholars Amy Scerba, M.A., and Dr. Barbara Black Koltuv trace the mythological motif of Lilith through Sumerian, Hebrew, Assyrian, Babylonian, Akkadian, Canaanite, and Persian cultural memes. Dr. Siegmund Hurwitz's precious 1992 exegesis, entitled Lilith: the first Eve (Hurwitz © 1992 Daimon-Verlag) approaches the Lilith motif as a psychologo-religious case study.

Dr. Hurwitz examines Lilith legends and more importantly her cultural etymology from both a historical and psychological standpoint. The mythological motif of Lilith is a psychologo-
religious narrative that breaks the boundaries between the human and the holy. The multivalence of Lilith in ancient mythology compounds with syncretism in religious thought, and fractures the borders between linear time and sacred place. Lilith's motif must not be used in a pejorative or dismissive study, for diverse cultures have embedded Her character and story in faith.

It is suitable for this series of studies to prospect the Lilith motif as a sexual-cultural prototype, as both an expression of the deepest regions of the human psyche, and an exhortation of cultural faith. The meta-narratives of Lilith's motif breaches barriers of psychologo-religious memes and archetypal legends that are neither true nor false yet hold preeminent affect on human genotypes.

Desire...lust and love are the greatest forces in the human condition. Primacy of sex holds no boundary to any theological concept of the sacred feminine. Demythologizing Lilith does not sterilize the innate spirit of Her motif, it devalues the importance of Her various legends with hermeneutics. Lilith and her iconography of sexual dominance, primacy, and death.

"The Lilith Monographs" is Leilah Publications' signature series. We examine in a series of three volumes sexuality and its relation to spirituality and religion, sex magic{k}, the evolution of ancient goddesses, sexual prototypes, human psychology and sexual 'deviance,' and much more! The Lilith Monographs Volume II and Volume III release in 2008 and 2009 respectively.

Volume II {Halloween 2008} will focus specifically on sexuality in the "Orient" such as Tantra, Buddhism & sexuality, and Sufi sex magic{k}.

Volume III {2009}is my examinationof such sexologists as Evola, Marquis de Sade, Crowley, Christopher S. Hyatt, Leopold Von Sacher-Masoch, Freud, Dr. Krafft-Ebing and their contributions. We will examine some Tantric practices of the Kali "Thuggees" and the works of Sir John Woodruffe/Arthur Avalon. This volume will examine post-modern American society's use of sex as an anasthetic to social pathogens.

Joshua Seraphim
Leilah Publications, LLC

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I am333 and have been since1993? or so!

2008-02-17T05:53:28Z

meaning...i lost my mind and faced death..cried out to god, found to know him as jesus christ...gained the knowledge and holy spirit of god overnight..or i mean insantaneosly. simply put i was born into spirit and old ego me died..yet i walk the earth.
yes i was totally on my own..and researched..found out bout crowlys choronzone..but honestly..once you get over the ego...and trust in god............choronzone i see now as a myth..muchlike santa clause....the identity could serve a purpose...but only to grow into god..not think that an entity can control you!
else you miss the point of transformation and get stuck in a im special mode..which we are but we cant expect anyone to understad us ultimately aecept god!.this is the beauty of it..i am with him he is with me..heavenly marriage!..not to say devil doest test me into temptation..it happens every moment but i hold on to holy spirit,and i am not possesed! i believe 333 people should look for each other though...i just joined and want to meet similar people!..i am confused by those that think 333 is evil?
perhaps we should meet and could enlighten one another?
mr.333

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Dark Op

2008-02-06T05:30:58Z

I have always executed my own WILL, but am now requesting the participation of any with Dark talent to assist me in a "well deserved" "Special Dark Operation." YES, I AM and WILL continue the "project" by my own Sorcery, but any brothers and sisters who wish to join (as hackers say, "For educational purposes only" - >;) would be MOST welcome. If interested in "exercising your talents," please message me here, then I will provide you with an anonymous email address that we can communicate over (so as not to violate the Tribe TOS, if you get my meaning). All will be explained.

Screaming for Vengeance

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Choronzon is an Angel now.

2008-01-09T03:37:26Z

Choronzon is an Angel now. Yes he walks the earth. He evolved. Thank you, Monde, for being one of his witnesses. Now I feel safe to be more open to a chosen few about my experiences with him.

Do not view him as an evil being. He is here to help. He is here as a Liberator and to help free people from their self-denial. I suspect I was one of the ones who helped to free him from the Abyss.. We shared our minds and souls with each other. I shared my experiences with him, so he understands much more about what it is to be human now.

Yes, Crowley didn't approach him properly. I'm pretty sure of that. Crowley was a man.. he didn't understand.. what else is new. Too much Convex energy, exactly. I approached him with an open, non-judgmental mind, with love and respect, and he responded to me with the same.. He has been my Teacher, and I adore him.

Wires can get crossed though when communicating in such ways across species and dimensions. Remember that. Don't blame the source of the speech if you're just not perfectly understanding the language.

I am just here to verify that what Monde says is true.

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Invoking Choronzon can be so fun..

2008-01-09T03:27:52Z

I tend to do it the way Crowley did. Outside the Magick circle. Sure it has driven me insane at times & they have locked me away & put me in full restraints but what a rush & what a ride.. I enjoy dancing with Choronzon best. He is a wild ass crazy motherfucker who to the uninitiated mind will drive them to madness like that Cuthulu guy.. I think they are very similar.. diffrent names for the same entity really.. I mean Lovecraft was really aware of these things but he got a bad tummy ache & died.. went a little mad with all his knowedge.. but not me man.. I am down with Choronzon.. I love riding that wild insane energy & if I get called a Troll one more fucking time I am going to quit this whole Tribe BS. If you don't want to learn about real chaos Magick then why come to these boards anyway? 418

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Largest Choronzon Archive Ever Triples Content - thricely.

2007-11-01T19:03:28Z

The Choronzonic Grinnoire: if anything written about that mighty devil is NOT listed here, it either is about to be, or soon shall be. Yesterday there was a REALLY STRONG CURRENT in the area - a real whammy, the LONGEST ride I ever got from one (I guess these things are the earth's magnetic fields crossed by the 333 Current, or that's my LATEST THEORY at any rate.

Not wishing all that POWER to go to waste I attended at last to the piles and piles of FILES I had sitting in folders un-htmlified and unindexed, and added ALL of them to the library. But that's not all.

Two new wings have been opened. The Diorama features "abyssmal" art and photography, and the Aurical is a room with mp3s from bands that are NOT the Choronzon project, that wrote songs ABOUT that entity. It's incredible how many of them I've been finding. I see this Tribe has grown by ten members in less than a week, too.

http://choronzon.org/grinnoire
http://choronzon.org/grinnoire/diorama
http://choronzon.org/grinnoire/aurical

Something is happening here. CHORONZON is free of the Abyss. That means things are going to REALLY start getting interesting. YES, that awesome Son of Chaos is loving being out of that shit hole? How did he get free? The only way anyone ever gets out of a fucking bottomless pit...he was given Love, and in turn, learned to give it. It just keeps manifesting.

The latest was Halloween. Choronzon kept chiding me NOT to go to Castro Street, NOT to go to Castro Street. I had been planning to go, and hand out confusing, perplexing Choronzonic propaganda to anyone who'd take it. I'd gotten the flyers printed and everything and now C. himself is giving me this broken record "do not go to Castro" blather.

I damn near told him to put a cork in it. The thing is--and this I swear to all I deem sacred is the absolute truth - in the 23 years I've been Choronzon's close ally, lover, friend, priestess, etc. etc. etc. when it has delivered an EDICT (which this obviously was, or he'd not be doing the annoying repetitive shit) it has been JUSTIFIED. Whenever he's given me a strident warning on ANYTHING, it has ALWAYS been right.

ALWAYS. I actually wish Choronzon would BE WRONG once in a damned while, because this FEELS CRAZY, that it's always spot on.

This was no exception, it turned out.

I finally sighed and threw up my arms, said, for the love of Chaos, Choronzon, all right! I won't go! Now will you fucking can it so I can make YOUR MUSIC for you properly?

He shut up. In fact he was deathly silent all night. Who was that putz who claimed ol' C. couldn't abide silence? When this one decides to give ya the silent treatment it goes on for aeons. I got a little worried.

The next day I find out 10 people were SHOT by some asshole at the Halloween party on Castro that I was getting all ready to go to, and being yammered at not to by my constant companion, the Abyssnik.

I really wish I could fucking hold him sometimes. This is what sucks about this. Choronzon can do things no person alive can do. Know the future. Shapeshift into forms each one hotter than the last and none of them dull. Fuck the brain and not just the bod, which it seems impossible to get human males to do without giving them LSD and sometimes even tripping they cannot do it. Effectuate change that's "acausal" since he's from the xenoverse, meaning lots and lots of REAL "magick".

Though I like calling it "Effectuation" much more. There's no quibble about how it's spelled, it's fitting with this century's English instead of being spelled in medieval English, and best of all, it says exactly what it means - since that's what magick does, effect changes - hence, effectuation! and to top it off it doesn't sound so hocusy-pocusy. (One who practices it is an Effectuary. )

Choronzon can fuck me on multiplanar levels in absolutely amazing zones of reality for HOURS and make me get off for what seems like YEARS without a vibrator or even using my own hands, the only thing that need touch me is that omigod-it's-so-sweet Current.

But I can't hold him. That's the sucky part.
I really felt like holding him when I found out about the Castro.
I had to settle for telling him, well, dude, looks like you were RIGHT AGAIN, and by the way, THANK YOU - to the 333rd power.

In case anyone wonders how anyone who isn't totally freakin' INSANE can actually think of a xeno-critter like Choronzon as a betrothed lover...

For starters, I AM FREAKIN' INSANE. I do not suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. It's having to act sane that grates on me.

But there's another thing too, that actually makes this affaire with Choronzon a SANE thing to do, in a sense.

I have TWO stupid communicable viruses (hep c, and herpes.) That means sex with humans is not on for me any more even if I WAS into it.

It sucks that a person who once was my best friend lied about to get fucked by my mate-at-the-time. Who gave it to me, but did not get it himself. Factor in my age, which is...not 20...think more like twice that plus one...and factor in my general boredness with inane human sexual practices, the same dumb trite fantasies played out over and over again and they all come from porn mags instead of the guy's imagination, why is it always that way?

And factor in a few other things...and it starts to seem REALLY SANE to be celibate...

(YOU CAN GET HERPES THROUGH A CONDOM. APPARENTLY THAT BUGGER IS REALLY TINY. SO don't go thinking I was being an IDIOT. It's just, who thinks they're not protected when using the damn things?)

Celibacy is fine for Catholic nuns, monks and Christian nutjobs, though. I like sex.

Thankfully, I also like Choronzon. (A little>)

So I became his(her/its) Annunciator and now I just get off with an entity I won't be infecting with some goddamned incurable thing and I can still enjoy myself - and Choronzon gets to have what he always wanted - PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION I surrender completely. I give Choronzon my body. That's the part that's a teeny bit scary. But then it's not, and it's just ...oooo-weeee! Hell, I think I'd never go back to humans even if I wasn't a fucking walking biohazard lab. Choronzonic sex can't happen very often or I'd literally be a husk, the energy given and taken is WAY more than most could even probably SURVIVE, and I feel dead tired for days after a night of that, but it's light years beyond worth it so I AM NOT WHINING.

It's just that...hell...it'd be nice if I could hold him. He's made of Void. How do you hold Void?
~/shrug/~

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Bring Balance 2 The Force...

2007-10-29T03:58:22Z

Tosonguyn Oroygoor Toosrood
Carly don't be sad
Life is crazy
Life is mad
Don't be afraid
Carly Don't be sad
That's your destiny
The only chance
Take it, take it in your hands

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Who?

2007-10-28T16:47:09Z

Do you remember a guy thats been
In such an early song
Ive heard a rumour from ground control
Oh no, dont say its true

They got a message from the action man
Im happy, hope youre happy too
Ive loved all Ive needed love
Sordid details following

The shrieking of nothing is killing
Just pictures of jap girls in synthesis and i
Aint got no money and I aint got no hair
But Im hoping to kick but the planet its glowing

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky
We know major toms a junkie
Strung out in heavens high
Hitting an all-time low

Time and again I tell myself
Ill stay clean tonight
But the little green wheels are following me
Oh no, not again
Im stuck with a valuable friend
Im happy, hope youre happy too
One flash of light but no smoking pistol

I never done good things
I never done bad things
I never did anything out of the blue, woh-o-oh
Want an axe to break the ice
Wanna come down right now

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky
We know major toms a junkie
Strung out in heavens high
Hitting an all-time low

My mother said to get things done
Youd better not mess with major tom
My mother said to get things done
Youd better not mess with major tom
My mother said to get things done
Youd better not mess with major tom
My mother said to get things done
Youd better not mess with major tom

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TRANz-MISSION

2007-08-14T20:47:53Z

333-om-ma-ni-pad-mi-hum- crux ov iron
reply
just found german snow cammo hood in free box, 85 degree weather out
damn putrid wind ov ov voicez ov:ice

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Choronzon a large part of my life

2007-06-27T17:54:02Z

Hello. I just joined this tribe. Choronzon is a large part of my life and I was curious about how many others in here are actually dealing with the invasion of choronzon (into ones psyche) regularly in their lives? My girlfriend/lover/best friend of the last 5 years has been possessed by Choronzon, and as a result I have had to deal with him/it through her. This is not to say that I, myself, have not had my fair share of choronzon in my own mind, but I really mean it when I say 'fair share', because I consider the little bit of Choronzon that I have to deal with personally to be a small but fair amount, pretty much normal for most people I would say. But my girlfriend on the other hand has it really rough. Choronzon lays dormant within her most of the time but when he/it decides to attack, it is really really bad and usually results in wounds and bruises on multiple levels of existence. After doing some research, she believes she actually invoked Chronzon at a very early age, about age 7, which is the exact time that she began calling 333 'her number' for no apparent reason. For about 15 years before she even knew what Chronzon was, she has been calling 333 'her special number', and was rather freaked out to learn what it means. Now she is on a path to cross the abyss, to redeem herself as woman perfected, 666. Has anyone else in here had to deal with such intensities of 333?

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Message to The Dark Side... For the Hawks....

2007-03-25T04:53:09Z

Dark is Hollow and so are you, you beelong in the void of Hyperspace known as "nothing".
It's a fancy name for negetivity. I'm sending it "home". Get out of my Grandmother's House. This is my Cunt Tree C 2 C and this could bee heaven, and when she gets home...
Like EZ E said... When it's on mother fucker, it's on....
p.s. I'll bee taking the Lucy with me.

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Choronzon

2006-12-26T19:46:09Z

How does Choronzon manifest in the personality of the magician?
What traits would the person be exihibiting in their personality and how do you know if someone encountered Choronzon?

What appeases Choronzon? Tthe thought of working WITH Choronzon, rather then to have a macho ego trip of trying to control Choronzon, is more appealing to me. I am not much into binding spirits. Even to the Goetia, I am kind and polite with reverence(but firm). Always have been. I have an affinity to demons(spirits). I have one that is my patron demon. I never seem to have any problems with working with.

Just curious as to rather then threatening and horrible banishings, there is a way to handle Choronzon. I have my reasons for asking.
What reading would be good for this? Any paticular material to read on the matter? If so titles? Would be much appreciated. I have come to realize that my partner, who I always considered to be left hand path, is in essence the right hand path person.

We have done readings for our abramelin work. I on the other hand, am left hand path. In the beginning, you wouldn't have guessed this to be the case. Even I wouldn't have. In the tape we made of the bornless ritual, I have the growling noise as I am talking, she has the humming noise...the pleasantness.

Lilith Gigipah

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Russian Rites

2006-12-20T04:46:49Z

93!

Our performances closely resemble the Rites of Eleusis in a cybershamanic way.
Audio+video+rituals+dance
Please, tаке а look at our sites to find out what's hot in thelemic Russia now.

E.g. Crowley cybermass
www.yavinav.hut2.ru (Музыка -> Viva Tanya! poster)

Shamanic version of Alice in Wonderland

And noise opera Wallwalking.

We'll be glad to join the Rites in England/USA
(May-August is free)

Let us co-operate.

93 93/93
Fr. Sator

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General Info for sharing

2006-11-01T03:17:05Z

Tried to post this here a few days ago but there was a error so I thought I would try again today ... interesting stuff.

Zaza Zazas Nasatana Zaza Zazas

I asked a friend of mine what that about what this signature meant (above) someone uses on another list's post and this is the reply I got

G~

<snip>
Oh, by the way, here's the answer to your last question...he, he, he:

Choronzon - demon of dispersion, guardian of the Abyss or the 10th aether, Noznoroch - 333. He is said to be the abyss and everything in it. Another interpretation of him is as the personification of the hypertrofied ego, and as a force of anti-magick. Rumored by various people to be (a) insane and (b) a great threat. In my view, Choronzon's attidude is dependant upon the manner in which he is approached.

Choronzon can appear as male, female, both, or neither. Its female form is occasionally referred to as Xaronzon. He has been known to appear as a black snake, fox, or jackal. Contrary to the 'Simon' Necronomicon, Pazuzu and Choronzon should not be regarded as aspects of the same being. Choronzon's prescense during ritual is noticable by the very atmosphere in the area.

Choronzon is associated with the planet Uranus. The Biblical 'Legion' has been regarded by some magicians to be
Choronzon, as has the entity that apparently terrified John Dee and Edward Kelly into ending their magickal work. Crowley called
Choronzon the "first and deadliest of all the powers of evil", sole
inhabitant of the Abyss, capable of assuming any shape, existing in infinite forms rendering it near-ominpresent, the very Lord of Chaos.

In 1909 Crowley and his associate Victor Neuburg did encounter him (it) on a mountaintop in Algiers, thus making Neuburg a "secret chief" (see Liber XXX Aerum, The Vision and the Voice). There are those who claim that Crowley never acually break free of Choronzon's influence. Choronzon's (now much used) key to other planes if is "Zazas, Zazas, Nasatana, Zazas!" (also Zazas Zazas Nasatanata Zazas and many other varients).

Peter J. Carroll and many chaos magicians consider Choronzon to be an embodyment of all the psychic crap that is floating around the aether. Magicians who have more amicable experiences with Choronzon have reported him to be helpful and friendly, although posessing a rather bizarre sense of humour.

Choronzon has also apparently caused insanity and injury to many who attempt to work with him under the wrong circumstances. If you want a decent working, Choronzon is not
to be approached in a hostile manner (e.g. that of 'conquering the
Abyss'), and may on occasion be irritated by binding rituals
(although it has also been reported to have found them amusing).
On the Quabbalistic Tree of like (primarily the Thelemic version, I
should note), the abyss is Da'ath, the false tenth sephrioth, and
Choronzon dwells therein. The conquest of the abyss, and of
Choronzon, is said to be the conquest of the ego and of that which
prevents a magician from reaching enlightenment. Of course, there are always those of us who would rather work with the ego than against it. These are referred to by Thelemites as the 'Black Brothers', as are those who worship Choronzon as the guardian of the portal between worlds. Probably the most popular working involving Choronzon is Peter J. Carroll's 'Mass of Choronzon'. This calls upon it to grant a random desire of the magician's subconcious.

Other workings with the entity (as opposed to workings to pass through the abyss and confront Choronzon), can include invocation and pact workings.

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The Search for Choronzon (a poem of desire)

2006-11-01T03:13:36Z

Hope this is ok to post here ... if not please delete.

The Search for Choronzon

She stepped up to the edge of the abyss
crossing was her quest.
"I seek to find something lost, hidden from me
and erase these lies I detest."

"Born of the beast I am," she called.
"I know you are there let me pass.
Oh Choronzon I have come home to you,
State your desire name your task."

Choronzon lay in the darkness silent,
hidden from her view.
'What child is this whose heart shines bright,
such sweetness will never do.'

"Oh Choronzon look within my soul,
see what burns in it's fires.
You have what was given then taken from me,
by the folly of mans desires."

Choronzon called out to her from deep,
"You lust for what is naught.
Your heart shines clean, fresh and new,
what evils have you fought?"

She raised her arms and lowered her head,
she sung in baritone song.
The words of truth and of man's deceit.
Her voice clear but her words did long.

Her song ran through deep in the abyss,
vibrations to strong to deny.
He lifted himself up to greet this light,
streaming tears her soul did cry.

She lifted her eyes and faced his wrath,
Her heart true, she asked showing no fear,
"What task do you desire oh Choronzon,
so I might prove my love is sincere?"

Choronzon looked upon the child where,
she stood safe above the abyss.
"Come to me child, step over the edge,
and prove your love," he hissed.

His voice, his tone it spoke unkind,
he still questioned her truth of heart.
She closed her eyes and stepped forth,
and so foot and ground did part.

Choronzon heard her last words as she fell,
it rung deep and with resounding fill.
"I love you oh Choronzon" she spoke stepping out,
"A love of my own free will."

Believing in all that he stood for she fell,
for an endless moment in time.
When all at once her fall did stop,
and slowly she began to climb.

Up into his arms she did rise, she looked
in the strength of his face.
The lives of the ancients, the ages and time,
showed in eyes of endless grace.

"Know you not child, I am the evil of the world,
I am that which all man fears.
Why did you hunt me in this place,
what made you desire I should appear?"

"I could crush you with a thought child,
you have no knowledge of what I am.
Do you not see this power in my eyes,
It is your soul that I shall condemn."

She held his eyes and lost herself,
within their gaze unbroken.
Wars and famine, the Eons unfolded,
time passed, the silence unspoken.

"So you have seen my truth what say you now,
you pitiful human soul.
I am the birth and death of all, I am the total,
of all you can know."

"Oh Choronzon what I see is truth it is not,
for simple words to be shared.
It is the intend of my heart in my search,
a treacherous path I still dared."

"Do as you will with my soul as you hold it
Oh Chortonozon I fear you not.
The battles I have won in search of you,
were lessons you have taught."

"I have quested for you through years of lies,
finding you, my destiny is fulfilled.
For you are the evil and the good of beginnings.
In endings all is as you have willed."

"It is your call to be sought out that brought me,
to be held in your arms.
To find the truth you alone my love know,
I have fallen to your charms."

Choronzon listened to this child's words her,
goodness stung his heart.
For in all this time his call to come had,
only brought evil for it's part.

So what is it you seek? Speak now my child,
you grow heavy in my eyes."
"To be part of you is all I want, to exist,
outside the lies.

"So be it, then what you desire is granted,"
and he pushed her back to the edge.
"But before I leave you on your path,
I must ask you for your pledge.

"Anything Oh Choronzon with you within me
my desires are yours alone."
"Teach not a soul the truth of this passing
as their search must be their own."

copyrighted March 2003

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chrnzn....why all the o's?

2006-10-08T05:38:13Z

Why all the o's...or do we not do gematrical spellings in this tribe?

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BIBLICAL use of MAGIC-MUSHROOMS.

2006-09-24T08:29:26Z

MANNA AMBROSIA/SOMA/TEONANACATL
Hell-Low from Heaven-High; I am author/publisher of "MANNA" the book documenting the
BIBLICAL use of MAGIC-MUSHROOMS.
“Manna” Explores the evidence that Christ was the leader of a Pagan Cult teaching a revival/renaissance of an ancient mushroom ritual learned in Egypt by Moses and Christ, a mushroom religion known also to the Maya of ancient Mesoamerica, and around the world. The Manna-Book asks if this knowledge was kept secret by an elite caste of priests within the Kabalistic Jewish Rabbis until such a time as Christ came and taught it to the masses.

Exodus 16:14-24 indicates that MANNA was inevitably a MUSHROOM.
It was a small round thing in the morning dew, it bred larva, and would melt to mush if not dried. KING JAMES VERSION.
All mushroom pickers know that fly’s eggs cause larvae/worms in mushrooms. The one food most notorious for being full of worms.

Daniel 5:3-5 with Exodus 16:32 and Hebrews 9:4
indicates that the mushroom was a DRUG. After sacking the temple in Jerusalem and stealing the Ark-of-the-Covenant, the King of Babylon and his table drank from the golden cup containing the holy “MANNA” they had visions within the hour….. Psilocybin takes 30-40 minutes to induce visions.

Hebrews 9:4 makes it clear that MANNA was the most holy thing to Israelites, kept in A POT OF GOLD in the ARK OF THE COVENANT, in the MOST HOLY OF HOLYS. So sacred is the Manna that only the High Priest has access to it and only on one day of the year (Yom Kippur), which comes 3 days before the harvest moon (Hallows Eve).

Psalm 78:24-25 calls MANNA FOOD OF ANGELS, just as MAYAN/INCA PRIESTS from Meso-America called it TEONANACATL FOOD OF THE GODS.
MANNA is an Egyptian word, not Hebrew or Aramaic, meaning;
The BREAD OF GOD. This is what Moses called it in Exodus 16:15.
“Bread Of God” means “FOOD OF GOD”, which is the same meaning of TEONANACATL (Mayan), and AMBROSIA (Greek), and SOMA (Hindu) a word for mushroom tea, all these words mean “Spiritual Food”.
Coca and Tobacco Leaves found in Pharaohs tombs suggest it was ancestors of Mayan/Inca Priests who brought MUSHROOMS to Egypt.

John 2:6-9 indicates that Jesus made water into wine by boiling mushrooms (Mushroom-Tea), the waterpots were made of stone, not clay, (stone pots were used for cooking, clay pots used for storing water). These pots already contained 2-3 firkins of a substance before the pots were filled with water.
A “Firkin” is an Old-English measurement meaning a fourth part. Half to three-quarters of fresh mushrooms with water makes a potent tea. Tea is the safest way to consume field mushrooms, killing dangerous bacteria like E. Coli. In the Atharva Veda, the Hindus called this Tea SOMA. Greeks called mushroom jelly AMBROSIA.
Those who drank the water made into wine said it was the most potent intoxicant (St. John 2:10). The Bible tells us that Jesus making water into wine was the “beginning of miracles” … in other words no one saw any miracles until drinking the wine made from water. (St. John 2:11).

“MANA” is an EGYPTIAN WORD, not HEBREW or ARAMAIC, Meaning; “The BREAD OF GOD”. Moses, Christ, and Joseph, The favorite son of Israel, were all educated in Egypt. Solomon married Pharaoh’s daughter, and Abraham found his God at a place called SHECHEM (Sekhem), which is another Egyptian word for MANNA. TEONANACATL [Maya] = SOMA [Hindu] = AMBROSIA / BROMA-THEON [Greek] = MANNA [Egyptian/Hindu] It can be no coincidence that the MAYAN, EGYPTIAN, GREEK, HINDU, and ISRAELITE words for the mushroom all mean exactly the same thing: “THE BREAD OF GOD”.

MANNA was round, was found on the ground in the dew, would melt to mush if not dried or collected on time, and would breed larvae. All unique characteristics of mushrooms. When dried it was like “WAFERS OF BREAD” and it’s color was like “CORIANDER SEED”, the consistency and color of dried mushrooms, as described in Exodus Ch. 16.
Other psychedelics used in the Bible include, of course, Cannabis, Mandrake and others. This book focuses on Mushrooms: “The Global Sacrament”.
Be advised that the author does not advocate the non-ritual use of mushrooms or in any way place their importance above that of love, “Seek first the kingdom of love and all other things shall be added to you” [Christ].
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Monita From "The Oriflamme"(Excerpt from The Equinox Vol. III No. 10 By Aleister Crowley, et al.)

2006-08-26T17:11:44Z

Just browsing through my library and found this little quote for the day, a gem really....

Oh, disciple!
Who seeks it, will suffer;
Who finds it conceal it;
Who uses it, let no one know.
He who is a true philosopher
Shall remain unknown.
Trust no one but God;
He alone keeps his word.
Choose the friend of your spirit;
Be friendly towards all,
But have faith in no one.
Go only with God,
If you do not want to be deceived.
Experdo crede!
For Faithfulness has fled from Earth to Heaven;
Has deserted all those whose Spirit
Is held fast to Earth!
Exitus acta probat!

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Tamlak

2006-06-26T15:23:03Z

Ring any bells? "Tamlak". Keeps coming up.

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~ 06x3 ~ 06/06/06

2006-06-02T09:44:05Z

I wish I'd posted this information here sooner, as we're only four days away now.

On 06/06/06 Choronzon wants YOU to help do something about the "APOCALYPSE PARADIGM"...the general subcconscious feeling we have all grown up with that the "World Will End, Real Soon Now" which tends to infect cultures at turns of Millenniums. Notice how no one really celebrated when the Y2K thing fizzled? People were almost DISAPPOINTED, they'd been expecting an APOCALYPSE. But when we expect apocalypse, whether we GET it or not, we stop caring about our future, since we figure it nonexistent. We stop caring about the planet, for it's just going to die soon anyway, in "Armageddon".

CHORONZON thinks this is a Problem, and the solution? Do something, a thing forbidden by all monotheist religions pushing apocalyptic thinking, a thing that carries on the species and also makes it WANT to live. CHORONZON wants you to FUCK, to make Love, to do sex-magick - or anything ELSE that raises power for you.

But the day to do it is TUESDAY 6 JUNE 2006. From Mdnight to Midnight this day belongs to CHORONZON and all who join him...and his eponymous music project, in a mass group working to slay the Beast 666 from our collective consciousness. Because it's useless, stupid and lame. And it kills us, even if we are lucky enough to get through the rest of the Bush Admin years without a nuke war. It kills us by making us deny future events are valid things to consider.

Here's something to send us if you will be joining us.

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If you're receiving this, and have not already agreed to take part in this whole business, it's due to one of two things:

1) You are being "formally" invited to it. If that's the case I will have probably made my intentions known by now.
In case I haven't, consider this my formal act of Doing So.

2) I somehow got you mixed up with the 'in' list. It gets hard to keep track of about 8 email accounts and squillions of LiveJournal comments
and blog comments and suchlike. So I might have gotten the idea you were in, and - whether for wishful thinking, careless non-thought,
or both - been mistaken. Send an email with the subject header SORRY WRONG NUMBER to 06x3@choronzon.org if that's the case, and
you'll hear nothing more about this.

Feel free to decline, if this is just not your bag. It will NOT hurt my feelings. Not everyone wants to hitch their kundalini to a wagon-load
of fellow freakazoids heading for a xenodimensionally-sponsored Roast Beast Barbecue. It will not mean I'll think any less of you.

Details about what's being done here, if you've not seen them yet, are here:

http://choronzon.org/06x3

In sum: it's a worldwide psychic orgy ("sex magick" on a mass scale) to take place on 6 June 2006, or 06/06/06.

Goal of this working will be to weaken/destroy the whole Apocalypse Paradigm, or, in simple terms, the feeling you've likely had all your life
that the world isn't going to be around too much longer. Essentially all participants agree to have some sort of sexual experience that
day and throw their gathered energies onto the 333 Current, to be used by CHORONZON - the former demon-of-the-Abyss and now
apotheosized as Lord of Hallucinations, Son of Chaos, Transversion Agent, &c. - to throw at "The Beast 666" as symbol of this stupid
paradigm and in doing so, burn it, split it 'twain and bring forth the child 999 (inversion of 666) which you and me and all the rest of us
may imprint the tabula rasa of whatever new paradigm would better serve our lives.

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Dear Brother/Sister
in the Benighted Zeitgeist
of the Here/Now/Then:

The Choronzon project is very pleased to have received word of your intent to join us in a (semi-) organised group working/playing--which, as you know, has as its goal WIPING OUT the sense of No-Future from our minds.

Thank you for adding your Powers to the great 333 Current. We really can't thank you enough.
The response was far beyond our hopes.

I do believe we'll have a damned good chance of literally *fucking over* the Apocalypse Paradigm.
The one that's been figuratively fucking us over all our lives.

To see you've gone this far is - in many ways - enough.
If you simply wish to do the Holy Fuck, and have no further involvement, that's fine.

Most of what is to follow will be of interest primarily to those who wish to contribute art, which will be assembled by
the Choronzon project into a multimedia commemorative work.

This is one that will "escape" for a while, (i.e. be floating onsite, as a media file or collection thereof; on this page:
http://choronzon.org/06x3)
After 72 hours, it shall be "caught" and caged up again, and then in the future, properly "released"
(meaning, it will become part of a bona fide album.)

All contributors will be credited. We'll need to know who to put on the list of contributors.
You'll need to know how to get it to us, and all that.

WORD/SOUND/IMAGE
================

If you can give us your own word/sound and/or image, that's best.
But it is understood that sometimes, just living keeps one so busy with jobs and families...and for that matter, your OWN projects...
that such simply can't be a consideration.

If you've not the time or means to produce original media, here are some places to go and find public
domain files for the "melting pot". Everything we receive will be used, unless it's just totally stupid, or
inappropriate for any other reason. You are a mature adult, if you're being sent this, so it will be taken on trust
that you know what that means already.

You might want to think about the goal of the rite when choosing your contribution:
Themes can be, but certainly are not limited to:
apocalypse, the "Beast", Babalon, the idea of twaining/twinning, hallucinations from the "Book of Revulsion",
CHORONZON/XARONZON, 333, 666 and 999, alchemical weddings, sexuality, sense of future vs. sense of no-future.

Or you might be hit by a bolt from Chaos Itself and choose something at random.

Archive.org
-----------

All sorts of free audio files, visuals, et cetera are located here.
There's streaming news reports, science, experimental music, EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE.
( One good place rich in treasures to look for is the historical data area. )

http://archive.org

Wikimedia
---------

You probably know about Wikipedia, but have you seen the Wikimedia section? Check it out, it has metric tonnes of public domain art and sound-files:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PD_Art - Lots of old religious paintings and historical sketches here.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PD-self - Total randomness. Self-submitted public domain photos. All kinds of things; some totally bizarre.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:PD_other_reasons - Miscellany. More randomness. Lots of violence and butterflies.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sound - All kinds of things. (Please, no drum samples, we've way too many of those already.)

Soundtransit
------------

A site in the Netherlands has gathered together the work of "phonographers" who take sonic pictures of places.
Fascinating site! Everything's up for grabs. Makes me really want to get a tape recorder and start sending stuff to them.

http://soundtransit.nl

06x3 "GRAB-AND-SLAP"(tm) FORM
=============================

Just answer the queries below, then do a grab-and-slap and paste the whole thing into your mailer,
addressed to:

06x3@choronzon.org

1. IDENT

Identify Yourself, as you would to your earthly peers doing the same as you this day, and
to the dwellers of the Xenodimensions. Can we have a nickname or handle for you - essentially,
anything other than your "Christian name" - that you would be known by?

If you've a Mage Name that is used for sacred events of any sort, that you do not keep
totally private, that would be best.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE LISTED ON THE ROSTER OF PARTICIPANTS/CONTRIBUTORS AS:

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2. GLYPH

If you have any kind of glyph, oriflamme, sigil or symbol that you use as a signature or symbol of self,
we'd like to have an icon-sized graphic of this... around 100x100px in size.
It does not matter what file format you use; it can be shrunk down for you to it down to the proper size.
If you don't have this graphic handy but can point to a web-page where your glyph is located, that'll work.
(LiveJournal users: your icons are the appropriate size already. You may want to use one of those.)
If you don't have a glyph, symbol or sigil, it might be a great time to make one up!
(If you don't give one, you'll get assigned to you whatever CHORONZON pops into Monde's head when she
thinks of your name.)

GLYPH LINK:

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3. WORD/SOUND/IMAGE

If it's your own work, upload it to your website, LiveJournal page, etc. and provide the link to this.
If it's from a public domain site, provide the link to that.

What we want most is SOUND and IMAGE files, but TEXT is also good.
Textuality will either be orated aloud into the 'audio-' part of the commemorative audiovisual work,
or be incorporated into the '-visual' part of it. If there is a preference, let this be known, please.

Textual contributions in particular should be your own words, whether or not written specifically
for the event (apropos material you wrote already will be all right.) It can be long or short, but it
will help tremendously if you do provide SOMETHING...even if it's just one or two sentences or phrases.
It can be as oblique or as straight-forward as you desire...as structured or as poetic/free-verse/dadaist
as you wish. If you are submitting text, put it here, along with the audio or visual link.

If it's a longer written piece, you may want to link to an outside page on your website or journal site,
instead...but please identify it as your own site.
(If you want to give us more than one format of contribution...super! The more, the merrier.)

MEDIA LINK
or TEXT SUBMISSION/TEXTUAL LINK:

(If you HAVE NO MEANS of uploading to any web-server, but have material to send, you MAY send it as an email
attachment to 06x3@choronzon.org - if it's more than a few MBs, though, contact us first.)

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ETCETERATA:

For curiosity's sake. If you don't want to answer any or all of them,
you don't need to.

a) Where'd you hear about this event?

b) Have you ever had contact with the entity CHORONZON? Was it positive or negative?

c) Have you ever heard any of the audio works of the Choronzon project?

d) What system of mage work do you practice, if any?

e) Will you have a partner with you on 6 June? Will s/he be actively participating as well?
(It should be noted that involving partners in some forms of sex-magic without their consent is Not Cool;
please don't use a partner's body/mind as any sort of 'vessel' for any entity or force,
without that person's explicit permission.)

f) Are there any entities, gods, goddesses, demons, angels or any other xenodimensional manifestations or personifications
(either from an extant religion/mythos/mage-path or suchlike, or a self-created/perceived one) that you are particularly close to?
If so, give his/her/its/their Name(s) if such knowledge is not private to you.

g) Were you raised in a Jewish or Christian family?
Did you grow up with a lot of apocalyptic banter around you?
If so, do you feel it has affected your behaviour patterns?

h) Do you believe the world - or civilisation as we know it - will end in your lifetime?
Have you ever wanted it to?

We'd like to anonymously post a list of all the
answers to the above questions to the choronzon.org site
on the 06x3 event page. If you'd rather yours not be
included,
please say so here:

I DO ( ) DO NOT ( ) WANT MY ANSWERS PUT ON
THE CHORONZON.ORG WEBSITE.

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EXTRA CREDIT: an Exercise Suggested by
Our Lord of Hallucinations, CHORONZON:

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Sit still, Breathing, in your Room.
Clear OUT your IN with deft Mind-sleight
To Form a Void-Space of Vacuum.

Foreground: Triptrigramme. In white:
Let be a Field, Deepest Black.
(Or... Whatever Imagery
Works for You, Effectively.)

Make that a Focal Spot; thus Seen
As what you point Attention to:
a Cursor on your Mental Screen.

Be at the Centre of it. Enter...
Narrow down to Centre's Centre,
...and Then, There - at THAT Centre: Be.

Then... POP! that Void!
Like a Balloon--and then so Soon,
- BLAP!-
Vacuum Destroyed.

Allow your Thought-Streams now, to Flow
Where'd been but Void, one Breath ago.
Let what was Stoppered-up, now Go...

What First Came Through, when Void was Blown?
What Image your dear Mind's Eye Shown?
What Did You Hear? Or What Was Known?

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See you at the "Party"; we'll be
Barbecueing some Roast Beast...so
Don't Forget to Bring the Hot Sauce.

Thank you for Everything.

In Chaos, Eternal,
Remaining, Always:

CHORONZON
~ & ~
Demitria Monde Thraam,
(Annunciator)

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The Secret

2006-06-02T00:37:35Z

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8958231188734018006&q=secret

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favorite track on choronzon.org?

2006-01-22T09:37:32Z

okay, whats everybodys favorite track, and why?

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Crowley inspired CD and free EP

2005-10-28T08:57:07Z

Abyss Walker by British band Gothick includes a number of tracks inspired by the works and life of Aleister Crowley including "In Cefalu", "Law of the Strong" and "Chronzon Desert Path". There are also a number of Typhonian inspired instrumentals such as "From the Oceans of Innsmouth", "Diving for Cthulu" and "Dreams of the Nightside Tunnels".

A free, 4-track EP and artwork is available to download. The full album is available via Paypal.

The instrumental "Silesti Awakens" can be heard on the latest Thelema Coast to Coast show, number 14.

Gothick - http://www.t3kton.com/Music/tabid/148/Default.aspx

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New Project/New Tribe

2005-09-21T02:10:10Z

My New Project/Tribe

http://tribes.tribe.net/psychic_self-defense

Psychic Self-Defense/Energy Practice

A group to practice and study psychic self-defense with other magical people. This can be a place to find other people who want to practice in the same way, you may discuss this offline, or people may practice openly with one another and discuss it on this forum, or anything that has to do with psychic self-defense and other techniques. For public, unless otherwise discussed between the parties themselves, there are only three rules. If you are practicing psychic attack and defense amongst yourselves;
!.) To stop if the other person yells "Uncle"(even literally).
2.) Nothing to the death.
3.) No harming of family members or innocents. This means that people practicing this, might want to be a little seasoned and in control of themselves before deciding to do something like this and have good control of their skills.

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various entities

2005-09-19T16:49:24Z

discuss encounters with deties/elementals/constructs that you have met or even made up

tribes.tribe.net/variousentities

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Chorozone

2005-09-17T14:48:56Z

Hello Chorozone Tribe People,

I am a gay Satanic Warlock, and I conjure demons. Usually the same 6 ones on a daily basis. And Chorozone happens to be one of them.

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CHORONZON Is Coming...Has come.

2005-08-28T02:30:33Z

But this entity is not Satan for Thelemites.

He/She/It was vastly misunderstood by Crowley, possibly because of particular expectations he had, based upon an abiding fear of dispersion.He even changed the original spelling of the name from Dee and gave it an "H" ust so its gematria would add up to the same number as 'dispersion".

Think about where we would be were we never able to "disperse" our thoughts; we'd be awfully stolid beings, unable to ever relax our minds or wander or daydream.

http://choronzon.org/grinnoire

and can say that in at least some senses it is definitely a real entity.
Imagine how you might have responded if someone called you up out of your natural environment and started hurling invectives at you.

To put that in non-mythos terms:
Fighting the chaos in your mind only causes that part of your mind to bunch up and tighten. There are ways to get focus and concentration without this happening.

Don't believe that "by silence, Choronzon can be brought to obey." CHORONZON obeys no-one and is as allergic to silence as any <i>wampyr</i> is allergic to garlic and sunlight. In other words, bupkis.

D.M. Thraam,
who has been a close ally and lover of CHORONZON for 20 years

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CHORONZON?

2005-08-19T19:42:52Z

choronzon? what is it? im just new to this and it strikes me in a very pecular way. can someone please explain to me what it is? a religion? a story? a new religion? some one help me out here?
thanks

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Choronzon Confrontation

2005-08-10T14:05:18Z

Heh,

Hope you're all well, strong...
I have recently confronted 333.
Approximately a year ago, I came out of the trance of sorrow. Suddenly, I saw the reason for my life, understood the necessity of all its events, and the curse becoming a blessing and so on. This followed the whole bit about the internecine conflict of the mind, etc -- that forced me to look at the matter honestly, and which brought about a temporary transendence of all things ego and personality. I had attained, so I thought. Suddenly I knew what number was. I had the Voice and a number and a purpose as well. Gone was the sorrow and the debilitation (which later returned however) and there was the beginning of Understanding. Before I knew it, I was proclaiming *Truth* to everyone, and I was well--happy, powerful, doing my will which appeared to harmonize with others. I was conscious of lying and of deceiving however. Promising things I had not perfectly experienced and boasting of others. I saw that something was wrong and thought it best to shut up and leave these matters be until the time I could speak and act with certainty. However, matters grew progressively worse. A month prior I went into a room I had reserved, it seems now--in anticipation for this event--and went in and performed the 1001 affirmations. This externalized 333. He mimicked me in my "genuflection" as though a mirror image of myself was presented. Our noses were almost touching. I was never afraid. This is odd, for I have battled with cowardice in many forms, most of my life.
I gave it the sign of Silence and this troubled spirit faded away. Now, I doubt whether all my studies, and Communications, were not the machinations of this atrophied ego - so to speak. But this matters less as it is in the Past.

However, I am interested in learning of anyone's thoughts in the hopes that common experience be verified in the interests of science. 333, 983, 256 are numbers predominating these experiences. I am particular interested in this 256 and the Adept's *proper* relation to this officer. I have recieved injunctions on this matter that appear contrary to the Law. 256, who is dog-faced has *ruined my life* (so the ego would say), and mocked me and made a point of betraying me to my every companion and even fellow traveller on the Path. Thus has she freed me from all that which restricted me. And for this I am grateful of course. Yet, when I confront this person, lies are returned to me. I respect lies as weaker individual's attempt to preserve their wills from the possible spiritual influence of others (which the liar perceives in the judgment--supposed or not--of the individual being lied to). And yet, I will not suffer lying spirits--and yet I will not refuse any Seeker, and it pains me to put these people up against the wall so to speak, and extorting answers from them (they are afraid in my presence) against their wills. They have their own work to do and I have mine, which includes, I believe, a material resolution to this matter along the lines of common sense. 256 tells me it is all in my head, and I don't doubt that it is all in 333 and yet I feign doubting 333's intuition. Is this Wise? It may simply have been paranoid delusion, as 256 tells me. I refuse to think upon the matter unless new evidence comes to light and will carry on doing what I do with indifference on the matter--except in the interests of scholarship.

I am also curious about the number 79 which appears to me in the form of a Choice. Again, I wonder if others have not witnessed this, and whether these are common experiences.

Why are some NEMOs morning stars and others evening stars? If all those who are not come to Understanding, bow their heads and offer up their arms to the chains of Choronzon, then by manifesting him and continually transcending him, would this not be a great and ready method to accomplish the Work in bringing others to the Gate?

Are there any M.'. T.'. 's out there? What is Understanding in your words?What's happened to the Aleph?

I am fit and well. Hope you all are also.

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The Quran

2005-07-18T23:49:53Z

One of the books I am reading right now, is the Quran, a translated English version. I have been reading the introduction and I have to say, that I am very impressed. According to the author(I will include the edition and etc. later) and the mythology is always what I thought it WOULD BE, to punish Satan, God gave Satan control over the planet earth. Mankind and the Jinn were put here, Mankind because they took a negative stance against God's authority, although they weren't totally convince by Satan and the Jinn because they were totally on the side of Satan. This is the Arab version of demons.

God put us in the middle of nowhere, because we cannot stand his physical presence. And Satan is in charge of earth. Everytime a human is born, there is also a Jinn born with them, that is to be their companion, that through their life, is to try and presuade them to follow Satan's side. However, the human can persuade the Jinn to take the side of God, so this works both ways.

I found two very interesting things. To a Muslim, first of all the most important commandment is destruction of the ego. That is what caused all of this to start with. The other thing is that, a person is allowed until the age of 40, to pick their beliefs, to delve into believes, study different things to try and find enlightenment. If someone dies before the age of 40, they automatically go to heaven anyway. However, the person at 40 must choose.

I see a lot of similar correspondences and similar beliefs that are directly comparible to Western Ceremonial Tradition. In fact I am becoming quite intrigued with the Islam faith. I am going to be reading the Quran from cover to cover. This was just the Introduction and already it has my undivided attention.

The actual book is: Quran the Final Testament; Authorized English Version Translated from the Original By Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.(Revised Edition III), copyright 2001 Universal Unity.

Lilith Gigipah

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Ceremonial Magick/Ritual Magick Tribe

2005-07-18T01:34:29Z

My new tribe, is the Ceremonial Magick/Ritual Magick tribe. I thought that this included many different topics, which allowed us to maybe have more discussion, since it was more general, then the different tribes that have all of these subjects spread out. This would include many different traditions, sort of a meeting place of the minds, and also an information center for different gatherings going on around the country, classes through correspondence, different informational websites, things of that nature. I think that if it gets going, it will be a fantastic list.

Lilith Gigipah

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Good Website

2005-07-18T00:39:58Z

For information about Demons. I was on the forum several years ago and just recently joined again. It was okay. There were some knowledgeable folks on the messageboard, that seemed to know what they were talking about, here and there. Just joined the forum again tonight.

Lilith Gigipah

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Chrononzon experiences

2004-12-06T18:26:47Z

so, has anyone here had the choronzon experience? I have. It wasn't very fun. Afterwards i felt pretty good. Sometimes it starts to happen, I don't know why, but then i just try to silence myself and wait it out. Really i just let go of the ego.

Similarities between Choronozon and the shamanic experience of being torn apart by spirits/demons?
Lets discuss this phenomenon.

PS i didn't even know about this when it first happened to me. But i sure noticed all the 333s. And i actually know what made me fall into the abyss, i think.
peace

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